Nina Here Nor There: My Journey Beyond Gender

Nina Here Nor There My Journey Beyond Gender Honor Book for the Stonewall Book Awards in non fiction The next generation Stone Butch Blues a contemporary memoir of gender awakening and a classic tale of first love and self discovery Ambitio

  • Title: Nina Here Nor There: My Journey Beyond Gender
  • Author: Nick Krieger
  • ISBN: 9780807000922
  • Page: 353
  • Format: Paperback
  • Honor Book for the 2012 Stonewall Book Awards in non fiction The next generation Stone Butch Blues a contemporary memoir of gender awakening and a classic tale of first love and self discovery.Ambitious, sporty, feminine capital L lesbians had been Nina Krieger s type, for friends that is She hadn t dated in seven years, a period of non stop traveling searching for wHonor Book for the 2012 Stonewall Book Awards in non fiction The next generation Stone Butch Blues a contemporary memoir of gender awakening and a classic tale of first love and self discovery.Ambitious, sporty, feminine capital L lesbians had been Nina Krieger s type, for friends that is She hadn t dated in seven years, a period of non stop traveling searching for what, or avoiding what, she didn t know When she lands in San Francisco s Castro neighborhood, her roommates introduce her to a whole new world, full of people who identify as queer, who modify their bodies and blur the line between woman and man, who defy everything Nina thought she knew about gender and identity Despite herself, Nina is drawn to the people she once considered freaks, and before long, she is forging a path that is neither man nor woman, here nor there This candid and humorous memoir of gender awakening brings readers into the world of the next generation of transgender warriors and tells a classic tale of first love and self discovery.

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    1. Sat in Barnes and Noble for a few hours and read this. It was okay, I guess. A quick and easy read, moved smoothly, etc. Written well enough.Kind of about rich white boy problemsI mean the narrator acknowledges his privilege but it's never a point of departure for deeper analysis or thought about how all that's working/intersecting. As a simple transition story, it's fine, and thank gawd it challenges the Standard Trans* Narrative (TM). But I just didn't think it had anything new to offer in ter [...]

    2. Gender's not as black and white as you think.For those not as in the know, transgender refers to the experience of having been born biologically one sex but identifying mentally (and often physically) as another. This book is equal parts memoir and journey into the world of gender identity, from the point of view of Nina Krieger, a female-born individual who begins exploring her (now his) gender identity in her late 20s and early 30s, eventually coming to the conclusion that she prefers masculin [...]

    3. ***A note on pronouns: the author explains that in the book she is Nina, after the book he is Nick. Therefore I will use she to refer to the main character of the book and he to refer to Nick, the author of the book.***I have some pretty complex feelings about this book. I liked it for what I learned about trans identity and the process of identifying yourself as trans. But I was frustrated by what I felt was the author's I don't know self-centeredness? It is a memoir, but I appreciate memoirs w [...]

    4. I think I liked this. I was curious about transgender because it's something mysterious to me. I've known transgender people but have never been so close that I understood their sexuality or other things. After reading this memoir, I still have questions but realize each situation can be different: the level of modification people take on to pronoun preference to identifying hetero- or homosexual. The book did end quite abruptly, and I'd love to read a sequel.

    5. I really enjoyed this book. Though I grew up in lesbian & queer culture & worlds at much the same time as the author, there was also much here that was new to me -- delightfully so. I'm grateful for the incredible honesty with which this book was written.

    6. Stick with it. It gets better as it goes. Nice to read a trans narrative that is less binary than the stories often told.

    7. Very important story for understanding diverse experiences of gender. Not well written. Very important story.

    8. There aren't that many books written by non-binary authors (that are entirely about being non-binary) We have Kate Bornstein and maybe Mattilda Sycamore (though I think Matt mostly edits anthologies)This is by a younger author, it's fairly new and is the first non-binary assigned-female-at-birth author I have found. In nonfic anyway, Lizard Radio is a YA fiction by and about an AFAB non-binary person. And, it's really, really good. Nick has a lot of practice writing, apparently he's one of those [...]

    9. chapter 1 - They would be there all night; they always were, their gatherings like the San Francisco monoseason—sixty degrees and partly cloudy with a chance of wind and fog—comfortable and easy, so predictable and unchanging as to be suffocatingapter 4 - The meaning was mine, as long as I was with those who had the vision and vocabulary to understand my creationchapter 5 - but the weight I’d anticipated replaced a visceral emptiness that seemed more tangible now that it had been filledapt [...]

    10. I really enjoyed this book. Like another reviewer on this site, I couldn't really get into it at the beginning. I was expecting that I would end up not finishing it and just bringing it back to the library. I'm glad I really got to absorb the book as I went on. I think I first heard about this book maybe 3 or 4 years ago, I thought this book was going to be about a person who does an experiment and pretends to pass as a boy to get a sense of being transgender. I thought this book was a memoir we [...]

    11. By the time they reach the reader's hands, memoirs from the edge of society—and really, what memoir isn't from the edge of society when it comes down to it—have already been so marginalized so many times over, have lived entire lives in the shadows, that they can run the risk of preachiness, of self-righteousness, of over-defensive (and don't mind the pun here) cockiness. But Nina Here Nor There is not so much a memoir as it is therapy in words, words beautifully crafted and honed with so mu [...]

    12. I've really wanted to write a review for this for a while, but I've never gotten around to it. I've started a couple of times, felt like I wasn't saying what I wanted and then stopped. Let me try again.What I enjoyed about this book was that it was an easy read (got through it in about a week), but still engaging. What I really appreciated was the deviation from the typical trans narrative (that old "I've always known I was in the wrong body" trope) and discussion of what it means to be outside [...]

    13. Life-changing trans* memoir. I would recommend this one to EVERYONE in WGSS; although, of course it is most applicable to anyone with a particular interest in Queer Studies or Gender Studies. It not only brought to light plenty of trans* and queer issues, but also forces the reader indirectly to come to terms with his/her own body. How do you feel about having breasts? How much does your physical body impact your daily life? How does your orientation link in with your bodily experiences? I felt [...]

    14. "In this environment, it was impossible for me to tell what gender cues--things like earrings, hairstyle, underwear preference, and body hair--meant to a person, whether someone with leg hair thought of herself as a free-spirited woman or himself as a virile man. The style signposts had once held masculine or feminine connotations that helped me define a person, but here they failed to indicate whether a person self-identified as man, woman, or something else entirely." Pg 12"What those around m [...]

    15. As the parent of a trans person, I have read lots of memoirs and personal writings by trans and gender/queer folks, hoping to gain information and insight into the human condition. I was immediately drawn in because this is the world my young-adult child inhabits, and it is drawn frankly and vividly. If you ever wanted to know how it feels to live in a queer-friendly environment, talk about sex and gender openly, obsess over all the decisions needed around hormones and surgery, and know how it f [...]

    16. This book grew on me. The beginning was really unsure, lacking sense of self and radical analysis. But then, Nick grew into himself and all the stories and anecdotes felt really local. The chapters about connecting with family particularly resonated with me. At one point, Nick gave dad the ultimatum of 100% support or not. I like when people value themselves in this way. I also really liked the relationship with Ramona. It was all exploring and grad student time schedule hang out 24/7 like.There [...]

    17. I have been meaning to read this book since it came out and finally dragged my ass to the bookstore to get it. I am so glad i did. I couldn't put it down, read it in 24 hours, and loved it. I am cisgendered and can be pretty high femme, but somehow it felt so incredibly relateable i want to buy it for all of my relatives for christmas as if it would somehow reveal something to them or finally articulate something i've been unable to put words to. which was not something i expected to feel. I gue [...]

    18. Wow, this book could have lost me for good in the first chapter or two. I found it incredibly hard to relate to a jock who comes from wealth. Does that make me closed minded? Luckily though I pressed on and found a satisfying middle and a very good end. Trans memoir is a genre I've read extensively and this one is worthwhile for the details between Nick and his community and Nick and his family. The repudiation of the 'classic trans narrative' trope is as gentle as it is exquisite. This book is [...]

    19. It was a stunning book. It really delves in to the mind process of figuring out who you are. For Nick it wasn't just, "I'm a boy and I have always been a boy" but more of a gradual realization. The worries that he went through for this are things I've thought about my self. Am I a boy or a girl. Is the surgery worth it. How will my parents react. I don't know the answers to that but the questions that were answered gave a huge understanding to the culture that is still slowly coming to the surfa [...]

    20. This was a very eye-opening book about the journey to making the realization that one was born in the "wrong body" if you will. The pages where Nina tries to come to terms with her body, tries to work through her own issues with her family and friends, really bring to light some of the things that trans people go through on their journey to finding their true selves. It is a good, easy read to get your toes wet on the subject of transitioning. For anyone who is curious about what goes on in the [...]

    21. This is a great trans narrative, especially for folks less familiar with (but interested in) queer/genderqueer/transgender/gender-variance issues. I like the path Krieger took to show his own evolution in thinking. Not really sure if it could change minds to help people accept gender-variance in society, but as someone already invested in queer issues, it was nice to read a first-person narrative that wasn't so "I'm in the wrong body and I've known it all my life," since that certainly isn't eve [...]

    22. Kudos to Nick for acknowledging the incredible financial privilege he grew up with, but I have trouble getting over phrases like "showers constructed of exotic stones, eucalyptus-scented steam rooms, cucumber-infused water" blah blah blah. It got kind of weird and Patrick Bateman-esque almost.In terms of style, Kreiger probably wrote one of the most engaging memoirs I've ever read, so I feel like a jerk for giving this only three stars. Something felt like it was missing I'm not sure what though [...]

    23. Meh. It's ok. I find it kind of offensive that this is described as "The next-generation Stone Butch Blues." Maybe I'm just so weary of the SF hipster trust fund type queers, and since this account is completely mired in that community, it kind of gets my class rage going when it's compared to Stone Butch Blues. But, in and of itself, it does contribute something to the small body of published trans narratives; however, I feel that there are far more compelling stories out there. And of course, [...]

    24. It took me one or two chapters to be drawn into the book, but then it got really interesting. As it is non-fiction, it's not so much about what happens next, but about witnessing an intense process going on inside the protagonist/author.I'd already been questioning gender/sex, but this book made me think even more about that. It presents many more concepts our models of perceiving (your own) gender.This is definitely a good read if you wanna know more about gender and what lies beyond (or in bet [...]

    25. Great read - well written, funny, interesting. I love memoirs. It's like getting to meet a new and interesting person without the hassle of actually having to talk to them :-) This was a very interesting memoir of a transgender person whose story doesn't follow the totally typical transgender narrative. If you like the book, check out more writing from the author and a few you tube videos on his web site - he seems very appealing and friendly. He's invited to my dinner party of interesting peopl [...]

    26. in my experience finding a transgender biography is tricky in itself. this is not only that but the best of its kind ive ever read. nick kreiger goes about portraying himself not to win over the readers, as so many gender-bending biographies ive read in the past, but instead simply tells his story of not fitting in, finding who he is and ultimatley embrassing himself in a cute humorous fun way. i definatley recommend this book

    27. This was an amazing book. Honest and thoughtful. Nick (who had been Nina) slowly becomes aware of his alternate gender identity and discovers a path through the difficult waters of the gender continuum. I found myself thinking about this book a lot, both while I was reading and after. There's a lot to unpack about how we/I think about gender and bodies. And how we/I define ourselves as women and men.

    28. "Nina Here Nor There" has been on my to-read list for quite sometime and I must say I have not been disappointed by the read. The book is a wonderful exploration of Nina's sexuality, gender identity and emotions around 'Am I trans?' and the fluidity of what trans is and means to others and Nina.I devoured the book within the week and would recommend it to anyone exploring their gender identity, questioning 'Am I trans enough?' and/or identifying as genderqueer.

    29. This is one of the best memoirs I have read that focuses on gender beyond just sexuality. So many transgender / transitioning memoirs have the feel that the writer is trying to convince themselves more than let you in on their journey of discovery. Nick, in a very compassionate and honest way let's us in on his family, friends and process to define himself beyond the gender binary. I would love to have lunch with Nick and discuss.

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