The Web and the Rock

The Web and the Rock Thomas Wolfe contended that The Web and the Rock the precursor to You Cant Go Home Again was not only a turning away from the books I have written in the past but a genuine spiritual and artistic c

  • Title: The Web and the Rock
  • Author: Thomas Wolfe
  • ISBN: 9780807123898
  • Page: 324
  • Format: Paperback
  • Thomas Wolfe contended that The Web and the Rock, the precursor to You Cant Go Home Again, was not only a turning away from the books I have written in the past, but a genuine spiritual and artistic change To demonstrate his commitment to a new literary direction, he transformed his protagonist Eugene Gant into the mature and aware George Webber.The Web and the RocThomas Wolfe contended that The Web and the Rock, the precursor to You Cant Go Home Again, was not only a turning away from the books I have written in the past, but a genuine spiritual and artistic change To demonstrate his commitment to a new literary direction, he transformed his protagonist Eugene Gant into the mature and aware George Webber.The Web and the Rock continues Wolfe s own story through George, a young writer whose works resemble Wolfe s own The first half of this posthumously published novel describes George s evolution from small town southern boy to struggling New York novelist and attempts to answer the brooding protagonist s question, What is it that a young man wants The second half is devoted to his tempestuous affair with a sophisticated married woman Ultimately, George, repulsed by the frivolous lifestyle of his wealthy mistress and her circle, retreats to Europe But, once again, his idealism is shattered as Hitler rises to power in Germany Disillusioned, George dreams of returning to the South of his childhood but realizes that you can t go home again.

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    1. Հիասքանչ վիպակ էր. հետո Ժենյա Քալանթարյանի գրախոսական-համեմատականը գտա՝ Հրանտ Մաթոսյանի ստեղծագործություններ հետ։ Ու հանկարծ՝ շըրխկ՝ ահա թե ինչու այդքան հարազատ թվաց։ Ալվարդ Ջիվանյանի թարգմանությունն էլ է շատ լավը։ Ասես հայերենով գրված լիներ։ Թարգմանության ոճը խոսակցա [...]

    2. The protagonist in The Web and the Rock, George Weber, writes a novel deemed unpublishable due to its extreme length—lazy editors send him insulting rejection letters without bothering to read the manuscript, alcoholic writers give it backhanded praise after admitting to having only read “a page or two, a line here and there” (even Weber’s lover, who believes him a genius, counsels him to cut a few hundred pages). The critical establishment is portrayed as populated by unsuccessful autho [...]

    3. I love Thomas Wolfe. I read something today that described him as the Proust of the American South. There are parts of his books that completely blow me away. He lived and observed so intensely, that he managed to create four novels out of his own very short life. That said, he REALLY needed an editor, and The Web and the Rock was not that well edited in my view. It was cobbled together after Wolfe's death, and the beautiful passages get drowned a bit It says something that this book is now out [...]

    4. Reading this book was like falling in love. Decades after I closed the book, I still often recall this author's vibrant phrases and the emotions he conveys so well.

    5. Най-накрая я завърших. Отне ми почти 2 седмици. Рядко чета толкова бавно, но с Улф нямаше как да се получи по друг начин. Този човек наистина не знае кога да спре - всяко съществително върви минимум с по четири прилагателни. Съществителните също са пет-шест. С пояснения. Явлени [...]

    6. My second time through this one, and I think I liked it better the first time. It ran long in a lot of parts, and, as the introduction points out, Wolfe’s affinity as an author does not run to telling a story. Nothing much happens in this book: George Webber grows up in a southern town, goes to NY, and there falls in love with an older woman. That’s about all of the plot. But, the thing about Wolfe is his turn of phrase, and his insight into life. One review I read said that you could pick u [...]

    7. Like all four of the huge, generally formless and quite outstanding books Thomas Wolfe completed before his early death, 'The Web and the Rock' is really an autobiography thinly disguised as a rhapsodic coming-of-age novel.Like his author, George 'Monk' Webber' is from North Carolina, is an ambitious, overly sensitive young man who dreams of finding fame as a writer, and goes to New York where he becomes a teacher and has an affair with an older, married, wealthy woman who supports him. That's j [...]

    8. Describing a fist-fight with the tough kids from the wrong side of town, Wolfe says "ey stood there massed against him in the whole concert of their hated qualitieshe had to meet them on their own earth of red waning March and Sunday afternoons" - the last phrase a perfect English example of what the Greeks called "hendiadys". He is really only describing one March Sunday afternoon but the rhetorical trope makes a generalization of it.All the descriptions of his teenaged impressions are this lus [...]

    9. What I learned from this book was patience. It took me over a month to finish this book, and I was ready to pitch it a quarter of the way into it. Thomas Wolfe may be an elegant writing, however his descriptive flowery phases run on and on. This book is not for those who wish to speed read or just enjoy fast pace novels. This book is to be consumed, to be taken fully for his development of each sentence as it leads to similar thoughts though more deeply elaborated as many similitudes strung toge [...]

    10. More than once, while reading this book, I have risen from my chair and crossed the room to a friend, acquaintance or family member. Needing to show someone a passage just read. The thought of the words trapped dark between the pages, unread, unseen -- cause me to take a quick breath, as i prepare to reveal to them a most glorious paragraph -- then a slow exhale, as I realize my impending oft repeated folly. Not ready -- not nearly ready are they to hear. So I return to my seat, and read more. M [...]

    11. For some reason, this third novel sees Wolfe changing the main character's name from Eugene Gant to George Webber, and there is a little bit of overlap with the first two, although this one concentrates on his great love affair with "Esther Jack" (who has the same name when she appears at the end of "Of Time And The River"). Anyway, it is, of course, another stunning work of epic autobiographical fiction. I suspect anything else I read after finishing Wolfe's novels will seriously pale in compar [...]

    12. A neglected classic. Although the narrative sags at times (especially the mid-to-late sections centered on protagonist George Webber's relationship with Esther), to complain of such is to miss the point of the book. Wolfe is focused on tracing in detail the full psychological and existential contours of one character's mind. As such, plot is secondary (yet there are brief moments of narrative pathos, such as the chapter "Child by Tiger," which would make a moving short story in its own right).

    13. Ահագին հետաքրքիր էր գրված, բայց գրքի ռասիզմը մի տեսակ խանգարում էր։ Իրականում պարզ է, որ նախորդ դարի ամերիկացիներն էդքան ռասիստ կլինեին, նույնիսկ հիմա են հարավում ռասիզմի տարրերը պահպանված, բայց կարդալիս մի տեսակ տհաճ էր։Թարգմանությունն էլ ահագին կենդանի էր արված։

    14. The content-order of the four major novels:Look Homeward, AngelOf Time and the RiverThe Web and the RockYou Can't Go Home Again

    15. How can I not like a book that has a fictionalized version of the true story of my grandfather playing QB at UNC and defeating our rival UVA.

    16. There are some great passages here. It's prose poetry.But it seems cobbled together. It was, after Wolfe died.

    17. Просто добавлю несколько любимых отрывков***Заявляя, что некий молодой человек «еще не нашел себя», эти люди, в сущности, говорят, что он не потерял себя, как они. Люди часто говорят, что «нашли себя», когда на самом деле загнаны в колею грубой принудительной силой обстоятель [...]

    18. The Web and the Rock is my first book written by the late, great Thomas Wolfe, my introduction to his genius and passion. Our hero, George Webber, a struggling author, abandons the woman of his dreams, of every man's dreams, the sweet and extremely patient Esther Jack. You feel like reaching through the pages to strangle the fool, as his madness and self-loathing destroys everything he holds dear. He finally finds his wits and sanity at the end. Wolfe, here, gets 4 stars out of 5. His descriptiv [...]

    19. Another book that delves into the search for meaning and adventure of a young man, and the impact that aging has on his outlook."He had suffered the sad fate of men who live to see themselves become a legend."On Dostoevski - " one of the grandest surprises in life is to open a book expecting to meet an author, and to find instead a man.""He was so shaped in the heroic and romantic mold that he always had to be the leader. He needed satellites as a planet needs them.""So was he driven across the [...]

    20. I picked this up because we went to Thomas Wolfe's home in Asheveille, NC. I've been wanting to read him for ages and had this on my shelf just waiting for the right moment. This seemed to be it.I'm not even a quarter through it, but I wanted to get this down before I forgot. There are moments of true beauty in this novel. Wolfe was clearly a talented writer. And I totally understand that this was written at a time period when social norms were entirely different than today. With all of that und [...]

    21. After finally finishing this book (I should have stopped reading it after the first 25 pages but I kept hoping for better), I am mindful of the need for brevity. Endlessly repetitive. Verbose. Fragmented. Tedious. The ennui of the tortured writer…ho-hum, i.e “so lacking in interest as to cause mental weariness”. Colossal lack of self-awareness cloaked in the illusion of self-examination. This book had an abundance of flaws but my review ends here. What follows is typical of the sentence le [...]

    22. God! Parts of it were brilliant and parts of it were pure CRAP. As others have written, the relationship with Esther takes WAY TOO LONG to fall apart and seriously has ANY couple EVER had such conversations?HOWEVER the bits with Monk growing up in Catawba, the beautiful descriptions of his first encounters with the City, and (for me, the most brilliantly written chapter in the entire novel) the chapter at the end where George goes to the Octoberfest in Munich. No one writes about food and beer a [...]

    23. A slow difficult read about a young writer in New York City and his temptestuous affair with a married woman. The writing was beautiful in spots, but diffuse and unfocused for most of the book.Generally, Wolfe has a congested can't-get-it-on-the-page-fast-enough style, but his manic energy was missing in his last ans post-humorous novel. But at times he captured a moments with soaring fearless language.

    24. 2.5 instead of 2. The first 400 pages of this book flew by when I read them last year. Then Wolfe decides to delve into his relationship & chronicles every word of every argument or discussion he had about his relationship for three years. It is boring, especially when the two get stuck in a rut & argue about the same thing at least 12 times before they break up. I made it through to the end, but Wolfe lost me quite some time ago. At least his other novels still inspire me.

    25. When is the last time you read a book by Thomas Wolfe? When is the last time you even thought about a book by Thomas Wolfe? When you read "Thomas Wolfe," did you think about the Bonfire of the Vanities guy in his white suit? Once this would have seemed inconceivable. Once he was included in the convesation with Faulkner, Fitzgerald, and Hemingway. Seems hard to imagine now.

    26. I liked what he was trying to do, but sometimes I felt as if it was words for words sake. This interfered with the story and my ability to connect with the characters, of which, there weren't really many. It was a little too much ego rambling for me. There are better coming of age books out there.

    27. I'm going to stop torturing myself trying to read this book. I am too distracted by the author's writing style and too-often-repeated use of certain words, especially the offensive n-word. Moving on.

    28. "In all the world there was nothing but Food -- glorious Food. And Beer -- October Beer. The world was one enormous Belly -- there was no higher heaven than the Paradise of Cram and Gorge." Heaven indeed!

    29. I challenge readers to read this and then tell me if it is worth the effort or not. I think it was but what do I know ?

    30. Loved the books of Thomas Wolfe when I was eighteen. They spoke to me of isolation and emotion and yearning. Was warned never to read them a second times— and I won't.

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